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NAME ONE

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:04 pm
by arcus10mm
Is anyone aware of a firearm that initially flopped due to quality/design issues that later went on to be successful?

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:01 am
by josht
Particular gun? Not really. Calibers and companies, I can think of a few. Taurus, and the 300 BO. One got a bad rap from 6th hand accounts even after they turned their shit around. The other should have failed, not necessarily because it's a bad design, more because it's used outside it's designed purpose, but stays bolstered by fanboys.

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:31 am
by Drec
I'm sure that there are lots of first designs that were bad when they were initially released. It's really hard to anticipate all of the things that can go wrong. If you have ever bought a new car, when it was released as a new model, there are lots of problems that arise. That is one of the reasons for a warranty. I spent 30 years at Boeing, most of it in design and 11 years as a manufacturing engineer.

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:46 am
by getvicious

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:15 am
by arcus10mm
and how many use glue or wood shims as a approved warranty repair ? or tell them its not there product its operator error ?

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:20 pm
by GregT
arcus10mm wrote:and how many use glue or wood shims as a approved warranty repair ? or tell them its not there product its operator error ?

Smith, FNH, Walther, Taurus... to name a few.

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:27 pm
by canicurs
Ar's got off to bad start,now look at them!

Re: NAME ONE

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:57 pm
by getvicious
canicurs wrote:Ar's got off to bad start,now look at them!


That's very true. I remember reading about the crappy plastic guns that shoot tiny .22 rounds and jam all the time back in the late 1960's. I also remember being told the AK-47 was a piece of Russian junk. I think both those rifles have shown otherwise.