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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby basshnter1 » Thu May 15, 2014 10:25 pm

I put about 200 rounds of tullammo steel case through the cpx 2 I had with no issues.
Just gave it a good cleaning afterwards.
There was nothing in the manual that came with my gun mentioning steel cased ammo.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby TechDiver » Thu May 15, 2014 10:31 pm

Tried Tulammo in my AR. He didn't like it so I've avoided it since.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Fri May 16, 2014 7:44 am

I just fail to see the reasoning of using steel cased ammo.

Do folks using it also use no name non detergent oil in their vehicle? Just to save a buck?

Do they always buy the no name cereals and other goods at the grocery? Just to save a buck?

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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby Warhawk » Sat May 17, 2014 7:25 pm

I have used steel ammo in firearms for years never had a issue. My thought is the metal of the firearm is stronger than the steel case so it won't damage the firearm.

At half the price of brass in my area steel is a good choice. Now I don't reload yet but I'm planing on starting so I have been shooting more brass and keeping my brass.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby TechDiver » Sat May 17, 2014 10:16 pm

jcwit wrote:...Do they always buy the no name cereals and other goods at the grocery? Just to save a buck?...


There is NO substitute for Fruit Loops !!! My wife tried once..... ONCE. :twisted:
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sat May 17, 2014 10:40 pm

Some things I like to save money on, but putting cheap ammo in a fine firearm is not one of them.

Course I reload most all of the ammo I shoot at the range. I reload 9mm ammo at $ .08 cents apiece, but then that's quality ammo I make. Now 45 ACP ammo is less than $ .05 cents each, being as I cast my own bullets with free lead, and this is quality ammo.

Steel cased, imported ammo? NEH! Don't think so.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby qwiksdraw » Sun May 18, 2014 7:27 am

When you look at the world market, steel cased ammo is common use ammo.
Brass is quickly becoming a semi precious metal, so steel or aluminum cased ammo make for good, affordable options.

Most of the bad reputation steel ammo has is based on old surplus ammo used for automatic rifles. The new stuff , especially pistol ammo, is nothing like that old surplus stuff.

It's OK if you don't want to shoot steel or aluminum cased ammo, that means because you guys passed on it I won't have to miss shooting this week-end . I got me a couple boxes....cheap!

Cheap is OK for range/practice or fun use. For carry, I use the best brass cased ammo I can find and afford.

But who listens to me? I buy generic drugs, store brand groceries and no-name cleaning products. How else could I afford ammo??????????
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sun May 18, 2014 8:20 am

Not going to get drug into an argument or even wish to drag anyone else into one.

But at the ripe young age of 70, I normally care little anymore about the world market other than the price of gas.

Did a little checking on the prices of steel cased ammo, prices seem to run around $12 to $15 for a box of 50 rounds.

As I stated in my earlier post I reload 9mm for about $ .08 each or $4.00, this is using plated bullets, I have never found the secret to using lubed lead in a 9mm, I have success in every other caliber that I've cast bullets for including a few rifle calibers. But 9mm escapes me, can't beat the leading problem. If I could I could reload 9mm for $ .012 each, that would equal $ .60 a box of 50 rounds.

I'm in the process of trying powder coated bullets, will find out if it is worth it, but it's much more labor intensive.

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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby TechDiver » Sun May 18, 2014 9:11 am

jcwit wrote:.... If I could I could reload 9mm for $ .012 each, that would equal $ .60 a box of 50 rounds....



You can't possibly mean sixty cents for a box of 50, could you ? Crap, if it were that cheap I'd might look into reloading. Are there a few decimals that need moving around ? :)
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sun May 18, 2014 9:27 am

Oh yes I do, and no there doesn't. Years ago I purchased various primers CCI brand from a going out of business sale for less than $40.00 a sleeve of 5000 primers. Using $40.00 as the base that comes out to $ .008 cents each. I have powder I purchased from Graf's in 8 # jugs at $7.00 a #, haz-met incl., using 4 grs. as an approx. base line for reloading 9mm that comes out to $ .004 cents. Now then I pay about $ .07 cents for plated bullets, soooooooo the final cost per round is $ .082, which comes out to $4.10 per box of 50 rounds.

Time is not factored in as I consider it a hobby. Plus the fact I'm retired.

Equipment also is not factored in as I've been reloading for over 50 years, it's way more paid for it's self.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sun May 18, 2014 9:31 am

I should add I bought all the primers the store had, in various sizes.

Doubtful I'll ever need to buy primers again.

Or any of the common handgun powders either.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sun May 18, 2014 9:41 am

Using todays pricing and purchasing wisely spreading the haz-met charges over a wide range of products having 1 haz-met charge one should still be able to reload a box of 50 rounds of 9mm for about $6.00 to $8.00 bucks.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby TechDiver » Sun May 18, 2014 10:13 am

I only shoot 5.56/.223, 9 MM and .380 (wife's carry). The .380 are fairly expensive. Would you reload .380 ?
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby GoesBang » Sun May 18, 2014 10:28 am

I would. .380 ACP bullets are .355/56". 9mm Parabellum bullets are also .355/56". 115 gr in both are not uncommon. Use the same powder, bullets and primers. What a concept.
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Re: steel cased ammo

Postby jcwit » Sun May 18, 2014 11:37 am

Yes I would. Let me put it this way.

I reload---
.32 acp
9mm Luger
9mm Largo
.380 acp
40 S&W
7.62 x 39
.30 carbine
38 Spec.
357 Mag.
.45 acp
30/30
32 Win. Spec.
30/06
.223 Rem. Bolt rifle only, I have no black rifles
9mm Makrov
7.62 x 54
8 mm Mauser
303 British
7.5 x 54 French MAS
6.5 Carcano
7.35 x Carcano
8 x 56 Rimed Hungarian

There may be a few more, but these are the ones I can come up with right out of my head.

All the handgun calibers I cast for with good success and little to no leading problems, except for the 9mm Luger. Some of my shooting buds claim its because its a high pressure round, well I have no problem with the 40 S & W and is that not a high pressure round.

I've finally given up trying to overcome the 9mm problem I have with the 9mm Luger and just buy Berry or X-Treme plated bullets which I buy for approx. 7 or 8 cents each. As I stated, I'm looking at the powder coated bullets, but also like I said it's much more labor intensive.

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