Good, not great ... 5 of 140 failed to extract

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Re: Good, not great ... 5 of 140 failed to extract

Postby Mrbone » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:09 am

I shoot wwb almost exclusively, and have never in thousands of rounds, had a jam or fte.
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby economod » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:13 pm

Used a digital caliper, accurate to 0.0005" (eBay $10.90).
Factory ammo, brass cased unless noted, within SAAMI spec for OverAll Length (1.000" to 1.169").
http://www.sccy.com/service-support/faqs/ "Do not use Steel Cased, Aluminum Cased, or reloads"

9mmAmmoOAL_crop.jpg

Range Day 7/30/15 ... 80-Winchester WB 1.157" (3) FTEx ... 60-Federal Champion 1.151" (2) FTEx
(5) Extraction Failures ... presumably caused by interference from next cartridge atop magazine.
Hopefully, cartridges with shorter OAL will alleviate the extraction interference.

Range Day 11/4/15 ... 80-BrassMaxx 1.118" ... 30-Lawman 1.127" ... 30-Remington UMC 1.109"
No Failures ... edit > later found that the frame had cracked < viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17399
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2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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Re: Good, not great ... 5 of 140 failed to extract

Postby sccytoter » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:58 pm

Wow. You certainly broke it down for us! :wink:
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby economod » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:02 am

I bring my calipers with me when shopping for ammo, and will decline cartridges 1.145" OAL and longer.
So far, there have been enough short-length ammo options to satisfy my meager needs.
The 100rds "can" of BrassMaxx-Bosnia sells for around $24+tax here, so that's an affordable choice.
It was especially good to have the flat-nose 147gr Lawman cycle so well. It's $15+tax here, per 50rds.

I want this gun to work. It fits my hand very well, and is fairly easy for me to conceal, IWB or coat pocket.
This was its first range day without any failures, so my confidence is momentarily renewed.
After fixing the initially detached slide hold spring, mine hasn't been plagued by other incessant defects.
I'll keep it for now. hth
2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby economod » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:29 am

Yes. I agree completely that this entire issue may be resolved simply by exchanging a faulty magazine or two.
Up to this point, I haven't been recording the individual performance of each magazine.
Anyway, that's where I am now. It is what it is. At least I know that it works with shorter ammo. Thanks.

BTW ... my brother's PT-111 G2 has fired half-a-dozen or more different brands of ammo with zero failures.
Its magazines are of higher quality than the SCCY, but its shorter trigger reach doesn't fit my hand as well.
2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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Re: Good, not great ... 5 of 140 failed to extract

Postby getvicious » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:24 pm

I have 5 mags. 3 from the time of my 1st Gen CPX and 2 that came with my 2nd Gen CPX.

I've fired this ammo without issue from my two CPX's (3 old mags from 2010 & 2 new mags from 2012):
Blazer 115 Grain FMJ
Dynamic Research Technologies 85 Grain HP Frangible +P
Federal American Eagle 124 Grain FMJ
Federal Champion 115 Grain FMJ
Federal Premium 135 Grain HYDRA-SHOK JHP
Hornady Critical Defense 115 Grain FTX
Magtech Guardian Gold 124 Grain JHP
Perfecta 115 Grain FMJ (Italy - CIP)
Remington UMC 115 Grain FMJ
Remington UMC 115 Grain JHP
RWS Sport Line 124 Grain FMJ
TulAmmo BrassMAXX 115 Grain FMJ
TulAmmo 115 Grain FMJ
WWB 115 Grain FMJ
WWB 147 Grain JHP

All these have fired well thru my two CPX's using the same three old mags and two new mags. I had some issues with my 1st Gen pistol and it was replaced by SCCY in 2012. The old three mags are the same in both pistols.

Either I've been lucky, which is possible, or the short mag issue is newer than about April 2012.
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Re: Good, not great ... better

Postby economod » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:26 am

Some luck lies in not getting what you thought you wanted
but getting what you have, which
once you have got it
you may be smart enough to see
is what you would have wanted had you known.
~ Garrison Keillor
2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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Re: Good, not great ... 5 of 140 failed to extract

Postby toymachine » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:14 pm

And that's the news from Lake Woebegone, where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking, and ALL the children are above average.
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby strider43 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:45 am

economod wrote:I bring my calipers with me when shopping for ammo, and will decline cartridges 1.145" OAL and longer.
So far, there have been enough short-length ammo options to satisfy my meager needs.
The 100rds "can" of BrassMaxx-Bosnia sells for around $24+tax here, so that's an affordable choice.
It was especially good to have the flat-nose 147gr Lawman cycle so well. It's $15+tax here, per 50rds.

I want this gun to work. It fits my hand very well, and is fairly easy for me to conceal, IWB or coat pocket.
This was its first range day without any failures, so my confidence is momentarily renewed.
After fixing the initially detached slide hold spring, mine hasn't been plagued by other incessant defects.
I'll keep it for now. hth


I have been back and forth so many times (confidence renewed)now as the sccy pistol works then doesn't work . Just two weeks ago out of the blue it would not feed unless I lifted up on the slide, now it seems to be feeding again. Where did you find wood shims?
they sent me a replacement pistol that didn't work out of the box. Every time I send my sccy back to them they replace parts at random that had nothing to do with the current issue. When I ask them why they replace parts that had nothing to do with the issue they wont answer me. I have sent mine back 6 times now and 4 times it didn't work when I received it back from sccy. They don't have any trouble shooting tech's, only random parts changers.
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby economod » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:53 am

strider43 wrote:I have been back and forth so many times (confidence renewed)now as the sccy pistol works then doesn't work . Just two weeks ago out of the blue it would not feed unless I lifted up on the slide, now it seems to be feeding again. Where did you find wood shims?

Wood Shims Waste-My-Time Warranty ... temporary repair failed after 40 rounds ... was quik-fix coverup for defective factory scrap salvaged receiver ... pure bs ... see photo here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17399&start=30#p50025

strider43 wrote:they sent me a replacement pistol that didn't work out of the box. Every time I send my sccy back to them they replace parts at random that had nothing to do with the current issue. When I ask them why they replace parts that had nothing to do with the issue they wont answer me. I have sent mine back 6 times now and 4 times it didn't work when I received it back from sccy. They don't have any trouble shooting tech's, only random parts changers.

They finally sent me a replacement pistol, too ... I sold it two days later ... good riddance.
2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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Re: Good, not great ... getting better

Postby strider43 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:09 pm

economod wrote:
strider43 wrote:I have been back and forth so many times (confidence renewed)now as the sccy pistol works then doesn't work . Just two weeks ago out of the blue it would not feed unless I lifted up on the slide, now it seems to be feeding again. Where did you find wood shims?

Wood Shims Waste-My-Time Warranty ... temporary repair failed after 40 rounds ... was quik-fix coverup for defective factory scrap salvaged receiver ... pure bs ... see photo here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17399&start=30#p50025

strider43 wrote:they sent me a replacement pistol that didn't work out of the box. Every time I send my sccy back to them they replace parts at random that had nothing to do with the current issue. When I ask them why they replace parts that had nothing to do with the issue they wont answer me. I have sent mine back 6 times now and 4 times it didn't work when I received it back from sccy. They don't have any trouble shooting tech's, only random parts changers.

They finally sent me a replacement pistol, too ... I sold it two days later ... good riddance.


I wish I would have been that smart. I thought a new pistol was the answer, I had no idea that they all were junk. Since I am stuck with it, (I cant sell it to anyone unlike SCCY Ind.) I keep thinking its better than not having a pocket pistol. I should just throw it in the river and be done with it. But its more fun to shoot it and have break so I can come here and bitch and piss off some selective people :bash: :bash: :bash:
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SCCY WOOD SHAM - FLAGRANTLY INEPT

Postby economod » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:34 pm

Waited 50 days for that replacement pistol ... sold two days later, unfired NIB $220 Armslist.

My original NIB $250+tax CPX-2 TT (total 520 rounds)
1. Detached Slide Hold Spring - (no fail-safe retention, thin plastic frame flexed too far)
2. Crude Magazines - (sharp edges, rough concave welds, backward springs)
3. Weak Recoil Spring Assembly - (slipshod hoax, erratic revisions, short-term use only)
4. Dislocated Magazine Release Spring - (no fail-safe retention, jolted out of position)
5. Extraction Failures - (cartridge length interferences using common factory ammo)
6. Slippery Grip - (smooth hard plastic, deficient texturing, added rubber grip tape)
7. All 3 Sight Dots Fell Off - (just another cheap disappointment, added epoxy paint)
8. Frame Pin Walked - (tiny frame pins, too small & too few, no fail-safe retention)
9. Frame Cracked - (this is where I finally quit sccy, not worth any more wasted effort)
10. Defective Scrap-Bin Receiver ... FACTORY SALVAGED with $268 WOODEN SHIMS.

SCCY quietly inserted WOODEN SHIMS to buffer their DEFECTIVE "Short Rails" RECEIVER.
After new frame swap, hidden wood shims crept upward, exposed by firing just 40 rounds.
Flawed Receiver CLEARLY never​ fit any frame, AND bred wide assortment of malfunctions.
Why keep any defective firearm? Especially CCW from such Flagrantly Inept Manufacturer.


SCCY Serviced 10-15-50 Days . Fragile . Archaic . Overpriced . Homespun Temporary Repairs
Never-Ending Breakdowns . Confidence Drained . Sold -$48 loss . WORST Gun I Ever Owned

Each part in this CCW was designed to be borderline 'adequate', and then hastily assembled.
Stunning but true ... SCCY knowingly ships new & repaired weapons with significant defects.
The recurring flaws are excused by fanbase that laud any attention from sccy part-swappers.
Until top-down quality-driven restructuring, sccy profits from Fragile Overpriced TinkerTrash.

Sccy Hides Wooden Shims inside their​ flimsy frames to Salvage their Scrap-Bin Receivers.
Garbage-In <---> Garbage-Out ... Buyer Beware. hth
2016 SCCY WOOD SHIMS > viewtopic.php?p=50025#p50025
9mm AMMO LENGTH > viewtopic.php?p=48248#p48248
CPX2 DESTROYED > viewtopic.php?p=51413#p51413
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