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Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:55 pm
by FloridaPilot
parkerd wrote:"My two pistols are a Colt .38 Detective Special and a SCCY. I'm quite farmiliar with revolvers, having also held in trust an H&K from my grandfathers estate for my younger brother."

I remember a few days ago you posted you purchased your first pistol? You really didn't want a gun, but mom and dad insisted. So congrats on how you have become an expert in so short a time.


Thank you. Yes, the SCCY is the first pistol I have personally purchased, and yes prior to Sunday the Colt .38 did not reside in my person. This does not mean that I've never fired nor researched the weapon.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:17 am
by strider43
FloridaPilot wrote:I'm not sure how the length of a barrel matters. Expansion is the dispersion of energy through the core of the bullet outward at the moment of impact with a target. If the round fails to expand, it would mean that there isn't enough kinetic energy to make the round do so. If that were the case, it would also mean that the round is not meeting the advertised speeds by the manufacturer.
While this is most commonly the case in compact pistols, they don't tend to differ with enough variance to prohibit the expansion of a hollow point. Lead is an exceptionally soft metal, so I find it hard to believe that a core I can sizably damage with one strike of a hammer wouldn't have the energy capacity upon impact to expand outward...

Either way, what's basically been said is that there's no point in ever carrying a compact firearm, and decades of 2" revolver experience is mute...


its the longer time with all of the energy behind the slug pushing it down the riffled barrel creates more velocity.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:22 am
by strider43
FloridaPilot wrote:I'm not sure how the length of a barrel matters. Expansion is the dispersion of energy through the core of the bullet outward at the moment of impact with a target. If the round fails to expand, it would mean that there isn't enough kinetic energy to make the round do so. If that were the case, it would also mean that the round is not meeting the advertised speeds by the manufacturer.
While this is most commonly the case in compact pistols, they don't tend to differ with enough variance to prohibit the expansion of a hollow point. Lead is an exceptionally soft metal, so I find it hard to believe that a core I can sizably damage with one strike of a hammer wouldn't have the energy capacity upon impact to expand outward...

Either way, what's basically been said is that there's no point in ever carrying a compact firearm, and decades of 2" revolver experience is mute...


its not that carrying small barrel pistols is pointless, you just wont get the full benefit of good expanding ammo. You can still put a hole in someone, just not as big.
I shot 1 round of 147 grn XTP loaded by Freedom Munitions from my sccy into a one gallon jug full of water the other day and the slug expanded fairly well. The exit wound was a lot bigger than the entrance wound.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:52 pm
by wrench459
shooting the bull 410 has a series of short barrel (3.0 inch) tests.
Ammo quest..

As far as I know
gold dot 124g
federal 124g HST are running neck in neck :-)

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:32 pm
by Merc6
wrench459 wrote:shooting the bull 410 has a series of short barrel (3.0 inch) tests.
Ammo quest..

As far as I know
gold dot 124g
federal 124g HST are running neck in neck :-)


HST? Is that the newer version of Hydrashock?

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:03 am
by Robin L Studdard
I have good luck with Remington UMC 9mm 115gr. JHP in my SCCY Gen-2. They seem to feed really well. They are a little more rounded than other Hollow Points.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:23 am
by Merc6
Merc6 wrote:
wrench459 wrote:shooting the bull 410 has a series of short barrel (3.0 inch) tests.
Ammo quest..

As far as I know
gold dot 124g
federal 124g HST are running neck in neck :-)


HST? Is that the newer version of Hydrashock?


Yeah, found out what they were and got a set for my CPX-2 the other day. Couldn't find it in .45 anywhere.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:17 am
by bubbinator
Bought my CPX1 for my wife but she had trouble working the slide so I inherited it. She took my S&W 642 w/ Crimson Trace laser grips loaded with Buffalo Bore 158 LSWCHP Gas Check +Ps @ +/- 1000FPS. I love her and strive to continue :D . Having loaded 9mm since the 1970s and 2 LEO careers, I have a very wide assortment of ammo on hand. I never liked 147gr. 9mm's reputation so don't have any. But from 90 gr. to 135gr. I had a bit to test a few. So far none have failed to feed, fire or extract, in mixed loadings from 4 magazines. In deference to the Sccy Manual I don't shoot +P often. Carry load is Federal HSC 124 JHP I get @ $24.00/50 from local LEO Supply. My respringed Browning HP runs well with 127+P+ Win Ranger LEO ammo, but I don't want to abuse the Sccy. Out of the box it was holding center left at 10 yds but the lateral sight correction was easy and quick.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:12 pm
by fla-gypsy
I've shot 3 different brands through my mine. Unlike those who have no communication skills I was able to get my initial issues resolved quickly and found Sccy a great company to deal with.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:31 pm
by wrench459
According to lucky gunner
The micro HST's aint bad.
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Re: hollow points (FP Micro 150gr HST)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:00 pm
by Novice49
Here's my experience as a 68-yr-old guy and first-time gun owner. Bought a CPX-1 presuming that a safety was prudent. Without first oiling the gun, I shot 100 rnds of MagTech 115gr FMJ, experiencing many, many FTF (failure to feed). I later cleaned and oiled it, then shot 100 rnds of Sellier & Bellot 115gr FMJ with no problems.
By then, I'd regretted getting the CPX-1 rather than the -2 (no safety) because the lip around the safety lever was painfully gouging the base of my thumb with every recoil. And in my next batch of 100 rounds (described below), I experienced 4 incidents of the safety lever unexpectedly engaging, caused by the previous shot's recoil (I believe, since I don't think my hands had touched the safety lever, and I have been gripping quite firmly). I now see in the thread "Sccy cpx-1 safety question" that SCCY will convert it to a CPX-2 if I pay the shipping -- I'll do that!
After my first 200 rnds, I learned there's a difference between training (FMJ) and personal defense (HP) rounds. Based on advice from a small local shop, I generously oiled the slides before testing this pricey ammunition. I shot 10 of each of these defensive rounds, with no feed or ejection problems at all:
Federal Premium 124gr Hydra-Shok JHP ($21.50/20 rnd @ local shop)
Sig Sauer 124gr V-Crown JHP ($15/20 rnd @ Bass Pro)
Sig Sauer 147gr V-Crown JHP ($15/20 rnd @ Bass Pro)
Federal Premium 150gr HST JHP micro ($22.50/20 rnd @ Walmart)
At that third range visit, I also shot 60 rnds of 115gr FMJ ammo, the only FTE (failure to eject) was one of 40 rnds of Federal 115gr FMJ RN ($19/100rnd @ Walmart).
At my low level of experience shooting single shots (no bursts), I did not perceive a difference in recoil between the 115gr, 124gr, and 147gr rounds, EXCEPT I did perceive significantly less recoil and no muzzel flash using the Fed. Prem. 150gr HST Micro rounds. So I intend to use them as my personal defense ammo. YouTube videos indicate that the HSTs expand well.

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:24 pm
by wrench459
I was curious about how long can you go with the stock mags.
Used some barnes tac-xp bullets set at 1.150ish.
They passed the "plunk test" in the bbl..
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Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:46 pm
by Newhouse44
I have found with my SCCY pistols that it fed Remington UMC 115gr HP verywell and you get to practice with UMC 115gr FMJ

Re: hollow points

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 9:26 pm
by sccytoter
ge33913 wrote:My CPX-2 has been a POS from the start. It went back, and came back no better. It wouldn't handle any hollow points. I feel they knew it was a POS when they "examined" it, and stuffed it back down my throat, as the stonewalling began when I complained again.

I certainly won't buy anything else from SCCY, or any subsequent company with the same management.

This just shows you get what you pay for, only these things ought to be priced below the High Points.

Wow. I am surprised you even bother to post on this forum anymore then.