Do you carry at home?

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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby xpoqx » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:48 am

Lefty Red wrote:
I understand what you are saying but listen to this........coworker lives in a house in the country. Goes on a court writ to Chicago and has to leave early and will be gone late. His home was broken into and two HUGE safes, THAT WAS BOLTED TO THE FLOOR AND WALLS, was cut out and slid outside on bed spreads and taken. So if they want it, they will take it.

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Man, Lefty, I'm not trying to be rude here, seriously I'm not. BUT WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE?! Hahaha, in all seriousness though, it sounds like you live in the most crime stricken rural area, with all of these violent crimes taking place. I think we're arguing the same point here though. As I was saying a determined criminal is going to figure out what times you are coming and going from your house to determine the best time to break into it so he has the most time to ransack it. All a Safe does is prolong the amount of time it takes him to gain access to your firearms. Good Safes come with an Underwriter Laboratories Time Lapsed rating for the amount of time you're safe can withstand educated and determined thieves breaking into it. All safes are not created equally and some of them are exceptionally easy to break into. No safe is entirely safe, just like nothing is completely bullet proof. But by leaving multiple firearms stashed across your house you are 100% increasing that criminals ability to easily gain access to firearms. Seasoned criminals know all the places you think that are good places to stash firearms because "nobody would ever think to look there". I always hear people say something along the lines of "it will never happen to me". That is a negligent and complacent attitude that allows bad things to happen. Secure your firearms, end of story. A determined criminal will take what ever he wants from your house. By securing your firearms you have a greater chance of ensuring that he does not have access to them as he probably didn't come prepared to break into or remove a safe in your house.

Most break-ins like the one that you described are perpetrated by someone you know who knew that you would be out of town for an extended period of time and that knew exactly where your safe(s) were and how to remove them. Determined criminals either way. The guy who's house got broken into up by me was smart enough to keep the most dangerous of his firearms secured, semi automatic assault rifles, short barrel shotgun, pistols and thus those criminals were unable to remove them from his residence.
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby Lefty Red » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:47 pm

xpoqx wrote:
Lefty Red wrote:
I understand what you are saying but listen to this........coworker lives in a house in the country. Goes on a court writ to Chicago and has to leave early and will be gone late. His home was broken into and two HUGE safes, THAT WAS BOLTED TO THE FLOOR AND WALLS, was cut out and slid outside on bed spreads and taken. So if they want it, they will take it.

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Man, Lefty, I'm not trying to be rude here, seriously I'm not. BUT WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE?! Hahaha, in all seriousness though, it sounds like you live in the most crime stricken rural area, with all of these violent crimes taking place. I think we're arguing the same point here though. As I was saying a determined criminal is going to figure out what times you are coming and going from your house to determine the best time to break into it so he has the most time to ransack it. All a Safe does is prolong the amount of time it takes him to gain access to your firearms. Good Safes come with an Underwriter Laboratories Time Lapsed rating for the amount of time you're safe can withstand educated and determined thieves breaking into it. All safes are not created equally and some of them are exceptionally easy to break into. No safe is entirely safe, just like nothing is completely bullet proof. But by leaving multiple firearms stashed across your house you are 100% increasing that criminals ability to easily gain access to firearms. Seasoned criminals know all the places you think that are good places to stash firearms because "nobody would ever think to look there". I always hear people say something along the lines of "it will never happen to me". That is a negligent and complacent attitude that allows bad things to happen. Secure your firearms, end of story. A determined criminal will take what ever he wants from your house. By securing your firearms you have a greater chance of ensuring that he does not have access to them as he probably didn't come prepared to break into or remove a safe in your house.

Most break-ins like the one that you described are perpetrated by someone you know who knew that you would be out of town for an extended period of time and that knew exactly where your safe(s) were and how to remove them. Determined criminals either way. The guy who's house got broken into up by me was smart enough to keep the most dangerous of his firearms secured, semi automatic assault rifles, short barrel shotgun, pistols and thus those criminals were unable to remove them from his residence.


LOL, just a small rural farming area on Southern Illinois. Sad part of it all was the James went from work to the American Legion to help out frying fish and then home. That means the only one that knew was going to be gone all that time was coworkers and Legion Vets! He was targeted and they had their way with him, so to speak.
Kind of like telling your "friends" on social media that you are leaving for vacation for the week. Everyone knows you are gone and your goods are easy pickings.
But that was not the only house that was hit like that around here. I think three or four in the last couple of years were burgled in the same way.

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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby wrench459 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:08 pm

I saw a sad fact.
If the home is flying the American flag outside.
Your a prime target for slime balls to break in to get your guns and other valuable stuff.
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby baxter513 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:53 pm

wrench459 wrote:I saw a sad fact.
If the home is flying the American flag outside.
Your a prime target for slime balls to break in to get your guns and other valuable stuff.


Its sad but true. If we fly the flag we are bringing bad attention to ourselves. Same as waving a POW flag.

A large aggressive dog will do alot more towards protecting your firearms and possessions while you are gone than any gun safe. We dont talk about large dogs enough. The best defense against burglars (when you are not home) is and ALWAYS will be a large aggressive dog.

I have a nice surveillance system as well but dont need to be staring into the monitors all day because the dog is always on duty. Better than bars on the window, better than ADT alarm company.

The dog eats $20 of food per month. But is a loyal soldier that will die to protect you and your stuff. I live in the bad side of town and hear police helicopters in the air at night at least 3 times per week. But I know the running crook will not be running into my house.

Feed the dog "RMB diet" just cheap dark meat 1/4 chicken thigh and leg on day one. Drumstick on Day 2 and Day 3 organs like gizzards, liver, chicken hearts. Then repeat the cycle. Dog will not stink on this diet and will only require 1 bath per month. Dog will thrive on this natural diet, all food is served frozen solid

No better crook repellent than a mean large dog. And a good companion and friend as well.
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby 3kt's&asccy » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:38 pm

Haven't been here for awhile. Just looking thru some of the subjects, and this one jumped out. I carry whenever I'm not in bed!!!! A pistol either goes in my pocket or on my hip, depending on how I'm dressed, as soon as I dress!! And while in bed, my pocket gun (Taurus TCP) is on the dresser and my holster gun (CPX2) is in a holster on the bedpost along with a flashlight! I also have a loaded gun, with a round chambered, on each floor, plus the garage, and a loaded 12 ga. in an open safe when I'm home. Just needs racked! This has been my habit for the past 5 years, when I, too, saw a video of a break-in where the victim was in the basement and a gun was not. Really got me thinking. The only place my gun doesn't go is to the courthouse or a school (safe zone????)!! Other than that, all the time, everywhere!!!! My pastor knows I carry at church and he's fine with it. Besides bad guys, there are many cases of animal attacks when outside doing whatever in the yard. Why not be ready? We had a break-in 4 years ago that I discovered upon arriving home from shopping. No one should have been there, but a light was on. I went onto the porch, drew my pistol, and proceeded to search the house. Whoever it was kicked in the back garage door and the exited out the front door, leaving it ajar. No one there, but quite a mess in the bedrooms. Every drawer was on the floor with contents strewn everywhere. Had some cash, a small camera, a pocket watch and 2 guns (.380, and .32 derringer) stolen. Eventually got the .380 back. But that convinced me more than ever to never be unarmed. Sure, I could've gotten killed that day if someone had been there, but at least I had an even chance by being armed. Now have cameras, a security system, and a couple of safes. Thanks for listening (or I guess I should say--reading).
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby TrapperBob » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:11 pm

As you said, pretty much the only time I'm not carrying is in bed or in the shower. Except, unfortunately, at work. I work at a university, so by state law my gun has to stay in the car when I'm on campus. In that situation it is in a safe which is bolted to the car's frame. There have been a rash of guns stolen from cars and trucks around here lately, in all cases the car or truck was unlocked and the gun was just under the seat or on the dashboard or in the console not locked. Who leaves a gun not locked in a car that's also not locked and walks away??
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby pastorama » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:44 pm

Didn't think much about it but then seen today where a Navy Vet answered his door and was attacked. the shot his intruder.
Never go unarmed, even in your home?
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby Pony Soldier » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:44 pm

If you carry at home - have you trained for a really close encounter? Much different than range shooting is the possible very sudden situation of close in defense.
Try standing in front of a mirror, 3 feet away, weapon close to hip, dominate one hand grip. Note muzzle angle at that distance. Take one step back as you raise the weapon to achieve a two hand grip to fire, note the muzzle angle again. Take another step back as you attain a two hand aim. You may now be 9 feet away from the threat. Try this. You may be surprised of the point of aim you see in the mirror to where you think the pistol is actually on target.
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Re: Do you carry at home?

Postby sccytoter » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:26 pm

mikeMAGNUM wrote:I carry at home and everywhere else I can go without detection.
In the past 40 years I have only been without a sidearm a handfull of times( jury duty, courthouse, and airports)
Since I don't like flyin very much and plan on stayin outta trouble with the Law, if my Luck holds out I might make the next 40 with less than another handfull of times bein NAKED.

Lol. We seem to be a lot alike. :wink:
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